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Militarybooks posted on Thu, Aug 13 2009 20:00

I have found that when importing text into Ventura, some text comes with buried tags that suppress or interfere with the applying of style tags. So for example, body text might be Garamond 11, but an attribute setting that looks like this: <P10.0>, which follows every quote mark or apostrophe. So that makes all the text that follows in that paragraph 10 point. In the normal page view mode, you notice when you run across an attribute tag, and you hit delete a few times until the text grows to 11 point.

But this is ridiculous, because formatting a 500 page book with detailed footnotes will take 200 hours at this rate.

I can't figure out how to do a search and replace, or get around this problem, either in Ventura, or in the original Word file to clean it up sufficiently to get rid of these issues. (And if you know how to clean up this in Word, please let me know).

Thank you for your assistance.

tps

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For these things away, dispose of character formatting in the footnotes to this end by placing the cursor in the text of one of the footers, selecting all text (Ctrl A) and assigning "none" on the labels style character. In the same way you can proceed to the text in general. It is a good practice to have to clean before you bring the text from Microsoft Word, by replacing the function, getting rid of double space, space before commas, dots, colon, semicolon, double paragraphs in the footnotes of page, sometimes Word formatted text using a hidden character format, which makes venture also bring this format, maybe it would select all the text in Word and assign one size of text, often helps.
Ventura is a great tool replacement, only that sometimes make the program fail, preferably using the "copy editor view. A good practice is to edit the chapters, make the text is saved as RTF file linked.
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One option for dealing with this is:

1. Run the ExportBugFix script (see below).
2. Export the text as ANSI text.
3. Open the exported text file in your favorite text editor (e.g., Notepad, Word, etc.)
4. Find/replace the problem codes out of the text.
5. Reimport the text into Ventura through the ANSI filter.


Another option is to purchase Import Text Plus 2 from John Faunce. (If you have V8, you can download Import Text Plus for free to use with it.)


Export Bug Fix Script
____________________________________

'This script prevents > and
'out of text or treated as codes. If you run it once during
'any Ventura session, the bug will be fixed for the rest
'of that session.

WITHOBJECT "CorelVentura.Automation.10"
.FileNew
.TypeText "test"
tempTextFile$ = .CurrentTextFile()
.FileRenameTextFile tempTextFile$, "c:\" + "deleteme.txt", 51, TRUE
.FileSaveAs "c:\" + "deleteme.vp"
.FileClose 0, FALSE
KILL "c:\" + "deleteme.vp"
KILL "c:\" + "deleteme.txt"
END WITHOBJECT
____________________________________

-- Eric [C_TECH Volunteer] Download the Ventura FAQ at: http://www.fhcomm.com/VenturaFAQ.pdf or http://home.earthlink.net/~weberej/VenturaFAQ.pdf

This seems like a great solution. Let me see if I follow because I am not quite sure how to implement it. (I am nearly a Ludditte)

1. How do I actually "run" the Export BugFix script?  I see the script below you mention, but have no idea what to do with it.

2. What does Import Text Plus 2 do? Is it specifically for Ventura? And where can I buy it?

Thanks A LOT!

 

TPS

Fernando

Many thanks. I appreciate it. I am one day going to get to Peru. I must see your lovely country.

tps

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> 1. How do I actually "run" the Export BugFix script? I see the script
> below you mention, but have no idea what to do with it.

Easy:
1. Open Notepad.
2. Copy evertything between the lines into a new document.
3. Save As ExportBugFix.csc in your Ventura scripts folder, which is usually at C:\Program Files\Corel\Ventura 10\Ventura\Scripts\. [Note: I think it's "Program Files (x86)" in Vista] Make sure it ends up with a CSC extension, sometimes Notepad will tack on an extra .TXT at the end.
4. Now, when you need to run it in Ventura, the easiest way is to go to the Navigator (where your publication structure is showing) and switch it from Publication Manager to Scripts. Then just double click on the script name.


> 2. What does Import Text Plus 2 do? Is it specifically for Ventura? And
> where can I buy it?

My bad! I meant to give you the web address! You can find it here:
http://www.graphics-guy.net/

Import Text Plus 2 (ITP2) is designed for importing text into Ventura. John Faunce, who wrote the script, was not happy with the way Ventura imported text, so he wrote this add-on to do what most of us wanted (i.e., leave all the extraneous formatting behind -- the stuff you're trying to get rid of in your file).You can find out more about it at the above URL. It's got a 30-day demo version, so you can test it.

-- Eric [C_TECH Volunteer] Download the Ventura FAQ at: http://www.fhcomm.com/VenturaFAQ.pdf or http://home.earthlink.net/~weberej/VenturaFAQ.pdf

Thank you so much.

One more quick question: does the script you included do the same as Import Text 2? And if I order the latter, do I need to do the former (or do they conflict?)

More than one question (sorry). I really appreciate your help more than you can know.

tps

Eweber: I sent an email to the graphics guys email address  and it bounced back. This is what I wrote:

I use Ventura 10

 

I was told you have a great program. I downloaded the compressed files to my desktop, double clicked and set up the file successfully (it said).

 

I opened Ventura set up a new file, imported text, and did not see any different window or command function. I imported as usual (a word file) and had the same issues: the body text is set to Garamond 11, and some of it is at Garamond 10 (after apostrophes and quote marks).

 

So I don't see a difference. What am I doing wrong? If I can get this work, I will glad pay you the 50 bucks.

 

Thanks for your prompt reply.

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No need to apologize. That's why we're here!

> One more quick question: does the script you included do the same as
> Import Text 2?

No. The script is simply to workaround a bug that can cause problems if you export text from V10.


> And if I order the latter, do I need to do the former (or
> do they conflict?)

No. They are independent of one another.


> I opened Ventura set up a new file, imported text, and did not see any
> different window or command function. I imported as usual (a word file)
> and had the same issues: the body text is set to Garamond 11, and some
> of it is at Garamond 10 (after apostrophes and quote marks).
>
> So I don't see a difference. What am I doing wrong? If I can get this
> work, I will glad pay you the 50 bucks.


John has been away from DTP work for a few years, so he can be difficult to track down. That said, to run ITP2, with Ventura open, run the utility from your Windows Start menu.

A couple other things that are helpful to know:

1. Sometimes ITP (and Ventura for that matter) choke on a Word *.doc file. But if you open the file in Word and Save As an RTF file, the RTF will import just fine. (Most of us do this as habit because it's less problematic.)

2. In the Import Text Plus 2 folder on your Windows Start|Programs menu, you'll find a shortcut to V10 Menu Instructions, which is a PDF file that explains how to set up ITP2 as a menu item in V10.


Hope that helps!

-- Eric [C_TECH Volunteer] Download the Ventura FAQ at: http://www.fhcomm.com/VenturaFAQ.pdf or http://home.earthlink.net/~weberej/VenturaFAQ.pdf

Hi E

Many thanks again. I got a hold of John and he phoned. Nice guy, but he has  been away for a while and it  was difficult for him to remember of it.

I can't get it to appear in the script  navigator panel but opened V10 and ran the Import Text from the start menue. It translates the file into RTF, which is fine, but it does not import it to V10, no matter what I do. However, I did examine it in RTF, and find that it removes all the footnotes, which is NOT what I had in mind. So maybe this won't work for me. Darn.

 

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Denver, CO
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If you are getting the footnotes in on a regular import, it sounds like the best way to go is exporting the text and then doing Find/Replaces in Word or something else (e.g., Notepad++, a free Notepad replacement from http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net).

If you decide to go this route, then you will find it helpful to familiarize yourself with Ventura markup codes. If you look up "markup codes" in the Index of the V10 Help file, you'll find fairly complete information on them. They are not difficult to understand.

-- Eric [C_TECH Volunteer] Download the Ventura FAQ at: http://www.fhcomm.com/VenturaFAQ.pdf or http://home.earthlink.net/~weberej/VenturaFAQ.pdf

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