Question about automatic page numbering

I used to know Ventura inside and out when it was a GEM product. I recently bought Ventura 10 and now I'm lost on something which shoud be very simple. I want the page numbers to appear automatically on a 48 page document. I searched the topics here and found someone suggesting that you have to repeat the process of making the page number appear on each page! That can't possibly be right. I know the first Windows version of Ventura was abysmal but surely they have fixed that by now. Please tell me there is some way. I have many books to do with several hundred pages each. Thanks!

Forest B.
Florida

It goes on the page tag. One of the huge differences between ancient versions of Ventura and recent ones was the disappearance of repeating frames and "master" page, all replaced by the "page tag" -- giving more than one "master page" and the abiltiy to have anything on each page tag. Page numbers are (usually) defined in the header or footer of the page tag(s). Control and definition are a matter of the paragraph, the Chapter setting, or even an explicit page.
I'm sure you will love the not so new Ventura, but still the best value out there!

Forest wrote:

I used to know Ventura inside and out when it was a GEM product. I recently bought Ventura 10 and now I'm lost on something which shoud be very simple. I want the page numbers to appear automatically on a 48 page document. I searched the topics here and found someone suggesting that you have to repeat the process of making the page number appear on each page! That can't possibly be right. I know the first Windows version of Ventura was abysmal but surely they have fixed that by now. Please tell me there is some way. I have many books to do with several hundred pages each. Thanks!

Forest B.
Florida

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http://coreldraw.com/forums/p/15766/65823.aspx#65823

Forgot to mention that the head and footer on page tags default paragraph tags have three tab stops set, and the "paragraphs" are already there, including the "tab" character, so just insert the page number (available from either the menu (insert...) or a drop down of almost everything you may ever need to insert on the property bar.

Note also there is a much more active Ventura newsgroup over at cnews.corel.ca. Also be sure to get Eric's FAQs
at http://home.earthlink.net/~weberej/VenturaFAQ.pdf

If by any chance you (or anybody else) needs help on indexing within Ventura, just drop me an email and I will send my indexing hints. Just eliminate the word referring to get out of here from my address shown here

Paul McGee wrote:

It goes on the page tag. One of the huge differences between ancient versions of Ventura and recent ones was the disappearance of repeating frames and "master" page, all replaced by the "page tag" -- giving more than one "master page" and the abiltiy to have anything on each page tag. Page numbers are (usually) defined in the header or footer of the page tag(s). Control and definition are a matter of the paragraph, the Chapter setting, or even an explicit page.
I'm sure you will love the not so new Ventura, but still the best value out there!

Forest --

Paul has already told you most of what you need to know. Here's a bit more detail that may help.

First, V10 has three views: page layout (the view you're used to working in), copy editor (for looking into markup codes within the copy), and page tag (for setting up/editing page tags. You can get to these views using the View menu -- or the three buttons on the lower left side of the V10 window.

To add a automatic page number to a page tag:
1. Switch to page tag view.
2. Find the page tag you want to edit.
3. Plant your cursor in the header/footer (or even another frame you've included on your page tag).
4. Use the Insert Button on the toolbar to insert the page number (or other automatic items).
5. Make sure the page tag is applied to the pages upon which you want a page number.

One last tip that will help with V10. Any item that can be tagged (pages, paragraphs, characters, tables, and frames) will take on all the properties of the tag when tagged. These properties will generally remain linked to the tag properties. So any changes you make in the tag will be reflected in the items with that tag. If you change (a.k.a. override) one or more of the items properties so they are different than the underlying tag, those properties become unlinked and will not change when you change the tag properties. So, the key to working efficiently is to work mostly with tags and tag properties unless you have an isolated, unusual situation that requires an override on a particular instance or a tagged item.

Hope that made sense!

Since you're leapfrogging a number of versions, you may find it useful to pick up Tom Anzai's excellent training materials for Ventura 10. www.anzai.com

The cost is minimal. Even if you just whiz through them in a quick review, they'll probably pay for themselves in time saved.

And, of course, we're always here to answer questions. :)

I did get both of the books - Intro and Advanced for Ventura 10, but neither mentioned the "copy to facing page" thing for the page numbers. The books do look good and I look forward to pouring through all the material when I get a chance.

Thanks.

The ease with which corelventura and style tags —in pages, paragraph, tables, frames, etc.—, it joined with the handling of headers and footers, do Ventura really incredible helpful tool for layout artists, editors and anyone else related to professional and editorial work documentation, but even to generate electronic documents with hyperlinks and other attributes, just stop at the possibilities as Corel, once and for all, to continue its development: the generation of electronic documents seems to be a super interesting way. Inside the box Coreldraw x5! evolution edition?

Greetings as always.

Fernando.

Fernando --

I totally agree with you about the power and ease that Ventura brings to DTP projects. And I totally agree with your wish that Corel would continue development of Ventura.

That said, I seriously doubt Corel will ever issue a new version for a variety of reasons from technical to marketing to philosophical. While it saddens me that a program I have used since version 1.0 (that was 23 years ago) is probably nearing the end, I am happy to report that it runs on Windows 7 -- which means we can continue to use it for the next several years.

All of you.

I agree fully with all this. I am a Ventura user since GEM 2.0 and use it still daily (I passed through all versions up to Version 10). It still is superior to InDesign CS4, which we have here too.It works great together with Corel Technical Designer X4, which we use as our main illustration tool (together with PhotoPaint X4). You only have to remember to save in version 10 formats, which in practice is no problem.

The fact that it is working on Windows 7 is hope-giving for all of us users/authors.

Perhaps, if the Corel Manual writers start using Ventura 10 ........

Kind regards, JoostJ