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Gary Coulier Posted: Sat, Sep 12 2009 12:22

Hello,

This is my first post - I am new to Corel.  I have been working hard trying to learn the software but can't figure out to auto seperate colors into different layers - I have been selecting each curve, text, etc. and moving them into their layer manually :-(

Any suggested books or dvds to help me master corel would be great too.

thanks

Gary Coulier

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Colour separation is normally done using the print diaglgue, i.e. CMYK.

You need to have a Postscript driver installed.

If you are looking for selecting the same colour, I suggest Woxxom Tools from Macromonster.com.

Are you doing separations for a press?

If that is the case, I also suggest that you look for the PPD for the Imagesetter/CTP that will be used.

Monochrome bitmaps can be a problem also. Spot colors a disadvantage.

Be careful of RGB images and fills. That is the downfall of most commercial printers.

You give the impression that you have limited knowledge of colours. I suggest that you a search on the forums about this topic?

You should also describe what industry you are in, Vinyl, Clothing, Offset print, etc.

 

Gary, as Adrian suggested, we need to know  exactly what you need the color separations for.

I do color seps/artwork for screenprinters.

If that's what you want, the process is totally different than seps for printing brochures, manuals, etc.

Give us a starting point and I'm sure someone here will be able to help.

 

Diane Jersey Girl
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Hi Gary, When I upgraded from my old CD I wanted to be up and running quickly and have a reference so I purchased Corel Draw Unleashed X3. I believe there is now an X4 version. www.unleash.com You can purchase a down-loadable version and/or (I believe) a CD/DVD. It was worth every penny.

Sherron

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Sorry about that.  I am a silk screener and need to separate colors into different layers for my screens.

Thanks for the responses.

Gary Coulier

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Could someone post what are the frequency's and angles that screen printers use for CYMK? TIA

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Most screen printers I know are using the separations command in the dialog.

David Milisock

Gary Coulier:
need to separate colors into different layers

Hi Gary, I don't think there is any such thing to separate colours onto layers, you can print to .ps file and import it back if you like in draw. If there is a commercial plugin for this thing than I don't know.

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You could separate the colors used into separate layers but Corel Draw automatically separates for you and, provided your artwork does not contain a bitmap or a tone of a color (e.g. graident, transparency), you can print to film right from Corel Draw. Simply click Print Separations on the Separations Tab in the Print Dialog. If the artwork does contain a bit map or tone and you are not printing to a postscript printer, then you will need a RIP to translate those items into arrays of dots that can be captured when exposing a screen. - Scotty

 

Okay Gary, seps for screenprinting...............

Next BIG question, what kind of artwork are you dealing with?

Since you mentioned curves, I'm going to assume you have vector art, not rasters.

Let's start simple and see if this helps.

If you're new to all of this, again I'm guessing that what you really want is each color of your design printed on it's own page. So you have a page for black, a page for red, etc.  No need for you to create layers.

Try this:

[1] Draw a circle or any shape.

[2] Type your name with the Artistic text tool.

If you're a beginner, again I'm guessing you only want to do is simple Spot color seps.

OPEN A PANTONE PALETTE.

Now color your circle/shape with one of those Pantone colors.

Color the text with a different Pantone color.

From there go to Print/Separation Tab.

Check the box that says Print separations.

Listed below you should see the 2 colors that you used to create your sample.

If you see more than the 2 listed then you used more colors by accident. (Check the outlines...........newbies often forget to change the outline default color)

When you select Print Preview, Corel will automatically put each Pantone (Spot) color on a separate page (plate.)

 

This is a very simplified example, just to get you started.

Go back and add a few more elements to your art using either the same colors you already used or any other ones for that same Pantone Palette.

In all cases, as long as you stick with that Pantone palette, Corel will automatically separate (layer, as you say) them for you.

 

Hope this helps.

 

From this point on, things get more complicated especially if you want to add bitmaps and/or halftones to the mix.

First things first.

 

 

Diane Jersey Girl
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Thanks for your responce.  I am sure this will put me right on track - sounds exactly what like what I am trying to do.  I am a newbie obviously LOL.  I did not change my outline default - not sure how or what to do with that - can you give me a tip on that as well.  I am going to buy some books and software to help me learn, so I will not flood this forum with simple stuff for long.

Thanks

Gary Coulier

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Gary Coulier:
I did not change my outline default - not sure how or what to do with that - can you give me a tip on that as well. 

With nothing selected, Right Click on whatever color  or No Color (Box X'd on top of palette) in the Pantone palette you want default graphics to have. A window will come up asking you what you want this Outline to apply to. The same technique works for fills by using the Left Click on the default color or No Color (Box X'd on top of palette)

Sue McCallister COLORSPOT Visalia, CA
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Thanks everyone for the help.  Wow, how much easier that makes printing my transparencies for my screens.

Gary Coulier

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Gary Coulier:
Thanks everyone for the help.  Wow, how much easier that makes printing my transparencies for my screens.

Here's another related video that covers some of these topics

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Once you learn the basics of Corel, you might want to look at Steve
Yates Vector Seps. This can all be done manually but his program makes
it much easier when your designs become more complicated.
http://steveyatesgraphics.com/?page=vs

I suggest you start learning to do things manually first, then you'll
understand how to design for your seps. Try hanging out at
gigposters.com for tons of info on flatstock printing. There are
hundreds of DIY printers on that forum who are willing to hand out tips.
Most are Adobe-centric so they won't be able to help with Corel
questions but the amount of information about seps, inks, screen angles,
etc. is endless.

Steve
www.brutefish.com


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> Hello,
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> This is my first post - I am new to Corel. I have been working hard
> trying to learn the software but can't figure out to auto seperate
> colors into different layers - I have been selecting each curve, text,
> etc. and moving them into their layer manually :-(
>
> Any suggested books or dvds to help me master corel would be great too.
>
> thanks
>
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> Gary Coulier
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