I am not sure what your question is. I used them constantly in my framing of the shot, cropping of the shot, and design constructs. They are rules, when followed will usually yield pleasing results but not always the best result.

There is a Photo Paint Compatible Plug In made by PowerTouche that is called the Golden Section Plugin. It allows you to interface with the various cropping theories includeing the two you have listed.

 Rikk

Hi Rikk
There is also a macro out there for DRAW. 

I cannot see any of Phil's posts. Just a empty message body. You guys can see them?? What gives??

 dont know. needs to contact the site admin to figure out the issue. I believe this happened to some others when the site was first launched.

I would rarely use the Draw macro. Most of the time I am applying this theory, I am working in PhotoPaint or my RAW handling software. But, I will note that in case it does come up.

Thats what I thought but wanted to let you know there is one floating around out there. Ill try to locate the zip file and will send your way just in case that opportunity arises