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  • 10-26-2007 5:29

    • 4sh
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    Editing copied text

    Hi, hope someone can help.

    In my old Corel PhotoPaint, if i copied a chunk of text i could click on it with the text tool and edit it. In X3 i can copy the text, but once pasted it behaves like an uneditable object, rather than text.

     Is there a setting somewhere that means i can edit the text after copying and pasting, or is this impossible now?

     Any help much appreciated!

     

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  • 10-26-2007 7:27 In reply to

    • sector6
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    Re: Editing copied text

     Hi there, You sure bout that? What version of PAINT are you referring to? I'm not aware of any version that allowed that sort of text behavior. Once you de-select text in PAINT it is rendered as a bitmap. As far as I know, once you leave the text tool, your all done! Stick out tongue

  • 10-26-2007 8:27 In reply to

    Re: Editing copied text

    Sector,

    Are you sure about that? Yes the text is converted to a bitmap, but
    PHOTO-PAINT knows it is a text object. See the Object Docker for proof.
    Clicking on text with the Text tool will allow it to be re-edited. I do this
    on a daily basis. As to why it isn't working for 4sh, I don't have any idea.
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  • 10-26-2007 9:05 In reply to

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    Re: Editing copied text

    Sector: Yep, i'm definitely sure. i would always copy and paste text and then edit in CPP 8 without problems.

    FosterCoburn: Ok, thanks for the assurance that it is supposed to do it. i'll look again and see if there's a setting for it. If not, i might try a re-install.

    i might have to re-install anyway as there's an irritating problem with the object docker when using text that may be something to do with it. Every now and again it flickers on and off and the text will double up and flicker too.

    One other thing on the text i'm not keen on, and that's having to highlight the text before changing the colour or size. Before i could see it in-situ without the distraction of handles or highlight overlay, and so was much better to judge how it looked. But that's progress, i guess... :)

  • 10-26-2007 9:08 In reply to

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    Re: Editing copied text

     Hey Foster,

    Thanks for the correction! I'm certainly no expert. I wasn't sure about it. I was under the asumption that once your text was rendered, that was it! ...Last thing i want to do is spread false infoEmbarrassed Thanks again! -paul

  • 11-06-2007 20:28 In reply to

    Re: Editing copied text

    He didn't indicate where he was copying the text from. Foster, help me on this. If I copy and paste text created in Draw into Paint, it is a bitmap that cannot be edited as text in Paint. However, if I copy text created in Paint, Paint knows that it is text and it can be edited. Is this how it works?

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  • 11-06-2007 22:00 In reply to

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    I don't remember ever copying and pasting text from Draw into Paint and
    can't think of a scenario when I'd need that.

    I would think that the key is to create a text block first in Paint before
    pasting. Otherwise it just pastes the text as a generic object.

    Given that Photo-Paint isn't made for long blocks of text, I just type what
    I need when I need it. Typically it is a few words at most.
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  • 12-16-2007 17:33 In reply to

    • Brian
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    Re: Editing copied text

    Hi 4sh, you can copy and paste text into PPX3 like any other version and still edit it. If the text is of a small font size it can sometimes be a bit of a wrestling match trying to select it with the Text Tool. If this happens then make sure the text object is selected and double-click the Text Tool in the tool palette; this will select the text for editing. One thing you may wish to note is that when you paste text into PPX3, it lands on the page at the font size shown on the property bar (the size currently set for the text tool). In other words, regardless of the size of the source text, if your property bar shows 24pt for the text size then your pasted text will come in at 24pt. Maybe you guys can help me with one small query that I also asked in another post. How are you getting your posts to show up correctly in here? I leave lines in between paragraphs etc and they are all coming up as one mass of text with no lines in between. It is very difficult for anyone to read. Best regards, Brian
    Brian
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  • 01-08-2008 10:03 In reply to

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    Re: Editing copied text

    Sorry, no i didn't indicate where i was copying the text from. It's from the same image i'm working on in Paint, as in i start a new image, type in some text and then copy and paste it back into the same image. Previously, in 8, i could still alter the text on either the original text or the pasted text. Now i can only edit the original. Most annoying.

    i've since tried re-installing X3 but it's still the same as before. Any text pasted becomes an object, and uneditable (as text). Because of this, and the fact that i now have to highlight any text before i can change the font or font colour, i'm seriously thinking about going back to 8 again.

     

    Brian: i'm not doing anything special to get my lines in between paragraphs in my posts, they're just appearing pretty much how they appear when composing. Are you using iE or another browser, like Firefox or Safari..? Could that be it?

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  • 01-08-2008 15:12 In reply to

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    Re: Editing copied text

    Hi 4sh,

    since last communiucating with you here - I have discovered that text does sometimes play up in Photo-Paint and in my case it has only been when creating animated gifs; is this where you are having problems? I have been making a quite a few lately to send to people as greetings in My Space. I create a new movie, type some text and add an image, copy all to the clipboard, combine all objects with background and then paste the contents of the clipboard into the next frame. I do this so that the text will land in the same spot it was in previously and I can edit it to what I want it to say next. The text does sit on its own layer - but cannot be selected for editing. This is highly annoying.

     That is the only situation I have run into where the text in uneditable. I am not even sure if it is really uneditable, or just being stubborn. When working on single frame (normal) images I never have a text selection/editing problem whatsoever.

    Brian
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  • 01-08-2008 15:14 In reply to

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    Re: Editing copied text

    Shakespeare:

    He didn't indicate where he was copying the text from. Foster, help me on this. If I copy and paste text created in Draw into Paint, it is a bitmap that cannot be edited as text in Paint. However, if I copy text created in Paint, Paint knows that it is text and it can be edited. Is this how it works?

    You can copy any object, text or vector in to a text object in PP therefore making it editable. Copy the object, then in PP click the text tool and click the cursor at the position where you like your object to be, now Ctrl V or past the object and double click or change to the selection tool. The pasted object is now sizable without loosing resolution.
    Alfred
  • 01-08-2008 15:33 In reply to

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    Hi Alfred!!

     4sh mentioned one point which brought back memories for me. 4sh mentioned that we have to select text before we can change its colour. I remember at some stage back in time, version 8? that one could simply click on text and then click on a colour, or a new font, font-size etc. One only had to highlight text to change a part of it, rather than the whole (e.g. make one word bold or larger, etc). It basically worked the same way as text works in Draw. Then all of a sudden that terrific functionality was taken away from us and it became less user-friendly for no known reason!

     For 4sh: when you copy text to the clipboard, the only guaranteed way to get it to paste back as editable text is to first click on the image with the text tool, so you have the text cursor blinking (the I-beam) and then paste. This will definitely give you editable text. The only issue with this is that it defeats the purpose of what I was saying in my previous post about animated Gifs where you might want to paste text to the exact location it resided on the previous frame. It is virtually impossible to place the text cursor exactly where it was previously.

    Brian
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  • 01-09-2008 7:06 In reply to

    • Alfred
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    If you want to copy text at the same location, how about Ctrl D? By the way editing text or color of the text still works the way you discribed, click the text with the text tool "A", then on color and it will change the color, font size or whatever else you can change, this functionality has not changed. Are you saying that this does not work on your computer?

    Alfred
  • 01-09-2008 8:51 In reply to

    • 4sh
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    Re: Editing copied text

    Either method - Brian's I-beam *then* paste, or Alfred's Ctrl-D both work. That means i can edit pasted text again, brilliant.

    Thank you both!

    Alfred:
    click the text with the text tool "A", then on color and it will change the color, font size or whatever else you can change, this functionality has not changed. Are you saying that this does not work on your computer?

    That's right, i can change the font size and/or colour, but the text has to be highlighted first. Before, so long as it was just selected (and so didn't have the grey highlighting obscuring the text) it would change. Do you think this may be an issue with my machine, rather than with X3 then?

  • 01-09-2008 13:05 In reply to

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    Re: Editing copied text

    4sh:
    That's right, i can change the font size and/or colour, but the text has to be highlighted first. Before, so long as it was just selected (and so didn't have the grey highlighting obscuring the text) it would change. Do you think this may be an issue with my machine, rather than with X3 then?

    Hm, yes you do have to highlight the text, but this does not obscure it on my computer.
    Alfred
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