Interface

Edward Thurston:

I can't understand the big hoopla about it.

 

I don't get upset but think about it how many things like this get in the way and have to be reset by the user?

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David Milisock

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I like the interface but i do agree with David, I think it would be a much wiser decision to add tools and fix tools that actually increase productivity or improve functionality. Like the mesh tool drives me crazy, it has so much potential to be a fantastic shading tool but falls short because it seems incomplete, (i've added another post about this if you're curious what i'm talking about). Though the new interface is nice and looks fresh i will not upgrade because of a slightly nicer interface but i would in a second if they actually fixed the tools that i've been waiting for them to fix for several versions now. I agree with David that Corel has a wonderful tool and superior to the competition in many ways but i never understood why they don't go all the way and really blow out illustrator. By this i mean scan through illustrator with a fine tooth comb and out perform them in every respect. I think CorelDRAW is the best illustration program but it doesn't get the respect it deserves because it seems like they only go half way with certain things instead of being the progressive super power they once were. They should really listen to the users more rather than offer us tools that are cool but don't really make a substantial impact. We all mention this because we want to see corel regain its glory but more and more it seems like they're catering more to the amateur market rather than the professionals who really remain loyal to them and therefor i find myself once again at the beginning of the two year wait for the next version to see if they're finally listening to us and hopefully i won't be dissapointed yet again with X5 (fingers crossed).

Well said!

dreamwizard:

I think CorelDRAW is the best illustration program but it doesn't get the respect it deserves because it seems like they only go half way with certain things instead of being the progressive super power they once were. They should really listen to the users more rather than offer us tools that are cool but don't really make a substantial impact. We all mention this because we want to see corel regain its glory but more and more it seems like they're catering more to the amateur market rather than the professionals who really remain loyal to them and therefor i find myself once again at the beginning of the two year wait for the next version to see if they're finally listening to us and hopefully i won't be dissapointed yet again with X5 (fingers crossed).

Okey, if there was only illustrator VS. CorelDRAW, I would choose CorelDRAW any second with no hesitation. First because the superiority of the program, with the easy way of doing illustrations. Its the best. Then on top of it it is a layout program. And its always been easy to save to a PDF directlty from CorelDRAW. No hazzle. And NO one of my clients through the years have ever complaint on my illustrations made in CorelDRAW.

And if we then DO PUT in mind the fact that we DO get Photo-Paint to go with it, as well as Trace, I really dont understand WHY I would ever like to buy Illustrator. The ONLY reason to buy Illustrator is if you are an Adobe fan and user and like to have a vector illustration software. And then concequently illustrator is what they give you. And I have never understood all these reviewers of "business" magazines dislike of CorelDRAW. Its pathetic how they always have to hit on CorelDRAW, and call Photo-Paint "bad". They are like an old professor sitting in an old 19 century (1800) office with the curtains down, going on and on, not knowing and not liking to know either, about the world outside. "-it was true 100 years from now, and its still true" kind of aproach. Only they were wrong to begin with. Stubborn people that seems to go to the same school, and NO one of them in their "magazine community" dare to have another opinion. Adobe programs are good programs, yes, but Corel programs are good also. And I happen to prefer the Corel programs. And for me CorelDRAW is superior. And even if Photo-Paint is a professional program it should be taken more seriously by Corel. They have started, but they have to do more. That said, I have no problems with Photo-Paint. I do all my adjustments and I do all my bitmap illustrations with it, and all my vector illustrations with CorelDRAW. And I am happy.

 Well written Ariel! 

dreamwizard:

I like the interface but i do agree with David

I think we are also missing one significant point and that is the change factor.  For example we have CD X3 and now CD X4, we are now looking for a different icon to do the exact same function as we did in X3.  Now multiply that for Cd 8 to 9 and then to 10.  All that money to change something time and time again that already works and for the companies that use Corel to have the learning curve thrust on them.

Now image this, the only interface changes are for new features!  A reduced learning curve and all that time and money could be used to make the semi-finished features complete.

Image a Corel world where the mesh tool and other features are complete, reducing the work arounds?

Edward Thurston:

Are "we" talking about a "Clear Crop Marquee" in Paint ?

Nooooooo, why would I do that :))

Great summary Ariel!

<Alfred> wrote in message news:12397@coreldraw.com...

Edward Thurston:

Are "we" talking about a "Clear Crop Marquee" in Paint ?

Nooooooo, why would I do that :))

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Alfred

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I used for years Illustrator, Freehand and CorelDRAW, and some others. This is an advantadge, because some people tal about CorelDRAW but don't know how it works, and the same happen with other software. CorelDRAW is very superior to Illistrator, not only more easy and intuitive, is more powerful and have more productivity.

 

For example: How many time it takes you to create a calendar in Illustrator? In CorelDRAW, only a few seconds, with hollidays and lunar fases. How many time it takes to create a simple barcode in illustrator? In CorelDRAW, only a few seconds. can you create an imposition in Illustrator? a simple booklet, a brochure, a double-face cards, for example? you must go to other software, like InDesign or Acrobat. In Acrobat, you must buy a very expensive plug-in, like Quite Imposition, hard to use and non-intuitive. You have all of this in CorelDRAW, and a lot more.

 

Crop Marks, fold marks, double side, all is very easy and intuitive in CorelDRAW. If you must create an imposition of several personal cards, in CorelDRAW you can create it exactly in a few seconds. In AI you must do manually, with the risk of a human mistake.

 

Will Illustrator mark with red underlines the spelling mistakes? Does correct with the right mouse button? Can Illustrator auto-search and auto-install a font (temporary or permanent), if the font is missing when open a document?

 

Can you create a print merge in illustrator? Only InDesign CS3 have a similar function. How much programs and money do you need to make the same or at least, a part of the CorelDRAW features?

 

Try to create a simple color chart of Pantone colors. In CorelDRAW, you can do it easily, with the macro CreateColorSwatches. In AI, you must do it manually, ono-by-one. This is a proffessional method of work?

 

this is only a few items, with the difference between AI and CDR. If you have CorelDRAW, you don't need Illustrator.

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Ariel Garaza Díaz

Madrid, Spain

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Oh yes, ten lashes with the coffee filter is good, therefore I'll forgive you :) As for, ", or it's in Draw, why not in PP?", I agree with you, however I'll bet you your used coffee filters that it is a technical issue which is not easily solved. Draw and PP are completely different animals and I would assume that the code is as well, I feel that Corel has done a great job integrating the two. Many of the features we have asked for are not feasable for this reason and I would think if there would be an easy way to please the user, Corel would do it.

Edward Thurston:

So how do we get comparisons like this in front of John Q Public ? Has there ever been (in the last 10 years) a truly non-partisan comparison using real-world situations ?

 

Ted

Ted, I don't think that Adobe's popularity has anything to do with the software performing or not, but it has all to do with the amount of third party vendors, support, and user written actions. Just look at any forum where PS is predominant and you'll find the number one question is "What action did you use", no one ever asks "how is it done?". I truly believe that it is not the Pro's who are pushing PS sales, but it is the general user who thinks he needs a program which is written for Pro's only and not to forget the price "If it's expensive, it must be good" attitude. CS3 is dismal but everyone needs to have it anyway, who could live without it, specially since they made so many changes as to make their own programs incompatible, so if you don't have CS3 you are out of luck, it's the perfect evolution of a Monopoly.