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FontNav X6 64 bit is wrongly detecting italic fonts as duplicates of others

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Top 10 Contributor
London UK
harryLondon Posted: Thu, Jun 21 2012 6:34

This looks very much like the cause of the problem that Mike Ver Duin is having at http://coreldraw.com/forums/t/33943.aspx

Is anybody else finding their fontnav (64 bit or otherwise) is diagnosing italic fonts as duplicates?

 

My details:

X6 installed on newly delivered 64 bit win 7 professional (with all available windows updates).

Asked fontnav to find fonts from D:\Users\Public\Documents\Corel\Content X6\Fonts (as installed from X6 DVD).

The catalogue shows at most two fonts from each family of four:

Going to file > Settings > Duplicate Fonts shows the reason: the regular and italic versions of the font have been improperly detected as duplicates of each other.

It applies equally to the fonts on the Corel CD and those already installed in windows, including standard fonts such as Times New Roman.

 

OS Name    Microsoft Windows 7 Professional
Version    6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601
Other OS Description     Not Available
OS Manufacturer    Microsoft Corporation
System Name    PCS2
System Manufacturer    System manufacturer
System Model    System Product Name
System Type    x64-based PC
Processor    AMD A8-3870 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics, 3000 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date    American Megatrends Inc. 1901, 08/02/2012
SMBIOS Version    2.6
Windows Directory    C:\Windows
System Directory    C:\Windows\system32
Boot Device    \Device\HarddiskVolume2
Locale    United Kingdom
Hardware Abstraction Layer    Version = "6.1.7601.17514"
User Name    PcS2\Harry
Time Zone    GMT Daylight Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM)    16.0 GB
Total Physical Memory    15.5 GB
Available Physical Memory    13.3 GB
Total Virtual Memory    31.0 GB
Available Virtual Memory    28.6 GB
Page File Space    15.5 GB
Page File    C:\pagefile.sys

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Top 50 Contributor
Houston, Texas
Male
That's hitting the nail on the head Harry! That's exactly what I'm
seeing with Gotham and quite a few other fonts. Completely different
file names reported as a duplicate. Good detective work.

It's no secret that BFN is ancient software licensed by Corel. If it
wasn't for the automatic installation of missing fonts I would have
scuttled it long ago. I did switch to Font Expert for a while on my old
workstation. It seems that I might need to look into switching again if
this isn't taken care of in a hotfix.

Steve
www.brutefish.com
Top 25 Contributor
Grand Haven, Michigan
Male

Thank you Jesus. Or in this case, harryLondon!

Exact same problem and I'm 32 bit windows 7

 

And all those duplicate fonts for each of those is the result of installing them just yesterday. I think I'm going to uninstall BFN for now and see what happens.

I think I'm happier to know I'm not crazy than I am mad that it is a problem.

Mike

Current System: i3 3.07ghz, 3gb ram, Windows 7 32 bit with all updates and X6

Top 50 Contributor
Houston, Texas
Male
A small follow-up... I looked on a brand new workstation using X5 (X6
has not been installed on it) and the duplicate font issue shows up in
that version of BFN also. Since I don't remember seeing this issue
before X6 and since X6 has a new text engine, maybe we are seeing the
results of a new text engine confused by an existing BFN problem. I
really wish someone from Corel would chime in on a possible cause and
hopefully an idea of when we might see a fix.

P.S.
I see that Font Expert has plug-ins for Adobe products replicating the
automatic font installation that we enjoy when using BFN. IMO, Corel
should reach out to the makers of Font Expert and license their software
for use with the DRAW suite.

Steve
www.brutefish.com
Top 25 Contributor
Grand Haven, Michigan
Male

Brute-Fish:
I see that Font Expert has plug-ins for Adobe products replicating the
automatic font installation that we enjoy when using BFN. IMO, Corel
should reach out to the makers of Font Expert and license their software
for use with the DRAW suite.

I am not a huge fan of the 'work-around' but I just installed NexusFont (and I'll be making a donation if things continue to go smoothly). It can load a font on the fly while in the document as long as you keep it open and running on your system.

I uninstalled BFN, then installed NexusFont, As a 'group' I added my Extra Font list of 3000+ random fonts that I want to be able to use but not keep installed. Then as long as NexusFont is open, I can use any of the fonts without installing them. It's really weird because it 'just works' (at least for me it does).

For example, I don't have 'umbra' installed. I open NexusFont. I open corel I use umbra and it is there. I close both programs. I open Just Corel and then the file I saved with Umbra in it and it says Umbra isn't installed. Close corel, Open NexusFont and Reopen the corel file and BOOM there is umbra just as fine as can be.

So as workarounds go, I like it.

Maybe Corel should buy NexusFont...  Link to website

EDIT:

Normally I don't mark my own stuff as an answer, but I've been running for several hours now with no problems at all. I even found another program called RBTray that runs NexusFont in the system tray/notification area so it is always running and out of the way. It is a complete solution for me at least (until Corel/Bitstream fixes it)

Mike

Current System: i3 3.07ghz, 3gb ram, Windows 7 32 bit with all updates and X6

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Cave Creek, AZ
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***I see that Font Expert has plug-ins for Adobe products replicating the automatic font installation that we enjoy when using BFN. IMO, Corel should reach out to the makers of Font Expert and license their software for use with the DRAW suite.
 
In order for a deal to be made, both sides have to agree on terms.
 
 

Top 10 Contributor
London UK

Right, I've noticed that this is not only a problem on 64 bit systems or on Win 7 systems. One of my 32 bit XP machines is doing it too.

Now looking for further clues ...

Top 50 Contributor
Houston, Texas
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NexusFont seems to be a good work-around but I must say that not being
able to install subfolders automatically makes adding fonts to the work
list a daunting task since I meticulously organize my fonts by
Alphabetical Folder - Named Subfolder. That means installing every
single folder one at a time. Whew! That's a task I don't look forward too.

Steve
www.brutefish.com
Top 25 Contributor
Grand Haven, Michigan
Male

Brute-Fish:
but I must say that not being
able to install subfolders automatically makes adding fonts to the work
list a daunting task

 

I agree. so I used the command line to copy all of my fonts into a big folder called 'archive all' and didn't worry about the sorting. I still have my subfolders elsewhere for reference, but for the purpose of NexusFont, I just drop all of the fonts into that folder if I need them.

I'm not at about 4 hours and Times Roman hasn't uninstalled yet. Only thing I've noticed is that CorelDraw is a touch slower on opening a new document/the text tool font drop down, but not horribly so.

Mike

Current System: i3 3.07ghz, 3gb ram, Windows 7 32 bit with all updates and X6

Top 50 Contributor
Houston, Texas
Male
Mike,

Solution found.. the "Include Subfolders" option is under VIEW. Checking
that allowed adding just the main folder into the sample group. One
nagging issue is that clicking on the main folder causes NexusFont to
re-scan every font again. At 7500 + fonts, that takes a couple of
minutes. Not a deal-breaker if I only have to do it once a day but I
wish the developer would create a database feature so it wouldn't need
to re-scan. I might be donating soon.

Steve
www.brutefish.com
Top 25 Contributor
Grand Haven, Michigan
Male

Brute-Fish:
Solution found.. the "Include Subfolders" option is under VIEW.

Genius!

Brute-Fish:
One
nagging issue is that clicking on the main folder causes NexusFont to
re-scan every font again.

I'll live with it. I don't reboot often.

Mike

Current System: i3 3.07ghz, 3gb ram, Windows 7 32 bit with all updates and X6

Top 10 Contributor
London UK

Yes, I'm quite impressed with nexus after a quick trial -- it seems well thought out and having to rescan my fonts (about 1050) each time it starts isn't taking too long.

Minor reservation -- it has to be running in order to supply missing fonts, unlike fontnav which is only a user interface and the real time operation is done by a DLL.

Nexus has a setting to minimise itself to the system tray -- which gets us almost there if if is run in the startup group. But it really needs to be made Alt-F4 and close-box proof to ensure it is only terminated from the system tray and not done accidentally.

Top 50 Contributor
Houston, Texas
Male
I'm running into a bit of a problem with Nexus. The majority of my fonts
are on a server and now I'm seeing a 2-3 minute lag when opening a file
and the first time I select the text tool. I guess 6 cores and 12 GB of
RAM aren't enough for DRAW to deal with seeing 7500+ fonts. Looks like
I'll keep looking at Font Expert for work but I'm definitely loading
Nexus at home where my fonts are on the hard drive and a much more
manageable number.

Steve
www.brutefish.com
Top 25 Contributor
Grand Haven, Michigan
Male

harryLondon:
Minor reservation -- it has to be running in order to supply missing fonts, unlike fontnav which is only a user interface and the real time operation is done by a DLL.

I've been running it for 4-6 hours now and it is taking 2mb of system ram so i'll deal with it. I actually like that it doesn't prompt me, it just runs with it.

as for the system tray, I have turned that on, then changed the shortcut to run as minimized so it should go straight to the system tray on start up after an admin prompt I suppose. That's the best we are going to get.

 

Mike

Current System: i3 3.07ghz, 3gb ram, Windows 7 32 bit with all updates and X6

Top 25 Contributor
Grand Haven, Michigan
Male

Brute-Fish:
The majority of my fonts
are on a server

I had problem back a few years ago when I kept my fonts on a network drive to protect them. I ran into a problem that if the network went down I lost my fonts. So I made a copy of them on my hard drive in an 'archive' folder and I run from that.

Mike

Current System: i3 3.07ghz, 3gb ram, Windows 7 32 bit with all updates and X6

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