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Mark Webster posted on Wed, Jul 4 2012 5:02

I am hoping this is something simple and I have gone through the forums and can't find anyone else with a simillar problem.

I can't get corel draw x6 to create a "FF" as in Coffee. It happens in most fonts and as soon as you type ff they disappear from view and don't print. I can go into x5 and type it then copy and paste it into x6 as graphic text and it works fine. The only way I have been able to over come it is to put another charachter inbetween the f's then make it tiny and no colour and there you go I can create Coffee, Geoff, Affable and so on. Obviously this isn't ideal.

I have used corel since the early days and really like it and can use it pretty well but this one is just stumping me.

Any suggestions?

 

 

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This is a new feature in X6, which for the first time supports ligatures. Information about them is here in the help file.

It does say "Some OpenType fonts may appear to support features that are unsupported." so it looks as if you may have found such a font.

Which font(s) are you using?

 

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harryLondon:
This is a new feature in X6, which for the first time supports ligatures

Harry is right. Select your text object and turn off the ligature button in the character docker. That should fix your problem.

I'd like to verify what is going on however because what you see is very unusual. What font are you using?

Claude Peloquin, CorelDRAW Principal Software Developer (Specialty : Text)

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Hi,

Try disabling "Replace text while typing" from Tools > Options... > Workspace > Text > QuickCorrect...

Which dictionary is selected for QuickCorrect?

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Top 10 Contributor
London UK

This is a new feature in X6, which for the first time supports ligatures. Information about them is here in the help file.

It does say "Some OpenType fonts may appear to support features that are unsupported." so it looks as if you may have found such a font.

Which font(s) are you using?

 

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harryLondon:
This is a new feature in X6, which for the first time supports ligatures

Harry is right. Select your text object and turn off the ligature button in the character docker. That should fix your problem.

I'd like to verify what is going on however because what you see is very unusual. What font are you using?

Claude Peloquin, CorelDRAW Principal Software Developer (Specialty : Text)

Hi Harry & Claude

 

Thanks for the help that sorted it straight away.

It was happening with the majority of fonts, Arial was OK  but just standard - not black, narrow etc also some random others but Avantgarde dit it.

Actually, I am trying it now with the ligature turned back on and I am struggling to find more than a couple that it wouldn't do it on.

It's odd as it only happened with FF and no other double letters, which is a bit awkward when you are doing a menu board for a coffee shop.

 

Anyway thanks for the help and well done with the fast reply

 

Thanks

 

Mark

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Claude,
 
I’ve had a user privately e-mail me about this issue as well. I was unable to get a lot of information from the user, but I suspected the fonts failing were much older fonts that simply didn’t have the ligature characters in them. If you’d like the information I gathered, drop me an e-mail and I’ll send it your way.
 
 

Same problem here. Tried to turn the button off.  I'm using Copperplate Gothic Bold. Frustrating..... Need help

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Those who have this problem still, are you using Windows XP?

Claude Peloquin, CorelDRAW Principal Software Developer (Specialty : Text)

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Mark Webster:
Actually, I am trying it now with the ligature turned back on and I am struggling to find more than a couple that it wouldn't do it on.

By that, do you mean that all fonts exhibit the issue?

Mark Webster:
it only happened with FF and no other double letters

ff is special because it has an "old" ligature which has an unicode code point : ff 0xFB00.

CorelDRAW does special processing on old fonts that do not support OpenType ligatures but that do expose the legacy ligatures like that.

I could swear that I ran into this problem on the forums before and I believed the issue was fixed but now I can't find my posts nor my fix!

I'll ask QA to log a defect against it so that I look into it again.

Claude Peloquin, CorelDRAW Principal Software Developer (Specialty : Text)

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I really need to know if those having this problem are running XP : this is very important information.

Claude Peloquin, CorelDRAW Principal Software Developer (Specialty : Text)

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FosterCoburn:
I suspected the fonts failing were much older fonts

Wait, that is an interesting quote.

Perhpas the font your are using lie about supporting the legacy ligatures. There is an easy test for this.

copy the following character (this is only 1 character, not 2)

and paste it after typeing "co" in the font that doesn't work to create "coff" and then type "ee". resulting in "coffee".

If pasting 'ff' results in a blanck space : that font is the problem

If pasting 'ff' works but changes the font for that character : then perhaps DRAW as an issue. See if you then can select the whole text object and reapply it the font. If 'ff' dissapear again, then DRAW definitaly has an issue with our legacy ligature support.

Claude Peloquin, CorelDRAW Principal Software Developer (Specialty : Text)

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I just realized, I was replying to a very old post.

I had an huge discussion through email about this with another user and we never could figure out what was wrong with her system too. Then, the case went cold.

If someone have this problem again, please reply to this post.

Claude Peloquin, CorelDRAW Principal Software Developer (Specialty : Text)

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Claude

I tried that.

claudep:
If pasting 'ff' results in a blanck space : that font is the problem

Results :
- I started with 'Co' with defalut Arial font
- Pasted the copied ff character and continued typing 'ee' to make it a full word 'Coffee'
- When pasted the font for 'ff' changed to Sakkal Majjala and 'ee' was again applied with Arial.
- Selected all Text and changed to Arial. Got a rectangle for the ff character
- Changing the font for entire word to Sakkal Majjala gave perfect results.

I am on Win 8 Pro 64Bit with latest bbuild

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Anand,

What you are describing is the expected behavior since Arial does not have the 'ff' character, Draw detects that and fallback to another font that does and then from that point on, it uses that new font.

Then if you force Arial on it, you get the rectangle because Arial doesn not have this character.

 

Claude Peloquin, CorelDRAW Principal Software Developer (Specialty : Text)

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Hello Claude

I was talking to you about this on a thread i started last week   http://coreldraw.com/forums/p/38957/185059.aspx#185059

I am using Windows Vista & it happens on many different texts

Pete

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