Is it possible to export as .psd WITH editable text?

 Hello Corel Jedis,

Since a few months I am trying to figure out an acceptable solution for the following part of my dayly workflow:

The design process of my newsletters are completely done in CorelDraw (what else), but my workmate have to use Photoshop(and it is not possible to convert him to Corel). So I export my design with text bodies as .psd. BUT the text is rasterized and not editable anymore when opened in Photoshop! Ev'rything's fine if I put the vectors of corel on different layers, but the text... OK there is a workaround: copy and paste, but the formatting of the text bodies are lost. Does anyone have a solution for this? Maybe someone have the same problem.

Help appreciated

mo

Photoshop can import an Adobe Illustrator File. You might try exporting to an Illustrator file and then have your friend import into Photoshop.

I would caution your friend that Photoshop is not a program I would ever consider using for a newsletter.

 Thank you for the quick reply, Rikk. I have tried several file-types, such as .pdf, .ai and .eps(aren't they origins of adobe?). Unfortunately noone of these work, even the .ai file fails and doesn't show anything in Photoshop. The only filetype with acceptable result and layer support seems to be .psd, but does not support text bodies. It's a dilemma!

I caution my workmate every day to change to corel, and he KNOWS that PS isn't the best choice for newsletters, he's a bit "bullheaded"

What else can I do?

mo

Mo,

Your co-worker is like many users who only know one program. They try to do
everything in that program. Just like I caution people on a regular basis
that CorelDRAW is not good for making books, Photoshop is not good at
newsletters. Maybe he should be using Illustrator or InDesign if he must use
an Adobe application.

I get kind of cranky when dealing with less-enlightened users like your
co-worker. So I'd inform him that I'm happy to provide the file you need
when you are using an appropriate program.

Thank you Foster. I don't want to offent my co-worker, but actually he is more than less-enlightened. It is tiring, cause I try to cooperate with him since one year, and I can understand that he is jelaous and insulted that my boss decided a year ago that I can do HIS job better (he's a hobby photographer). I don't want to dis people who are working with Photoshop, cause it's a very good graphics EDITING software, but I hate those people who are so awful snooty to think ADOBE Photoshop is THE ONLY AND ULTIMATE graphics software on the world (by far the fewest even don't know what vectors are, I might think...).

Well, I still have no idea what to do. It seems that we can't cooperate, cause I am not able to export editable text bodies, and he isn't able to work with Illustrator. Maybe I am "bullheaded" too, cause I work with CorelDraw since 13 years and DO NOT WANT to learn/work with Illustrator.

Anyway. Back to my question: Is it possible to export as .psd WITH editable text?

***Is it possible to export as .psd WITH editable text?***

No.

 After all the workarounds I think you're right, Foster. Cause I have found out that the problem ISN'T Corel Draw. For what reason? It does not matter which file you choose for importing into PS, the text CAN NEVER BE imported editable in PS! I have tried even with simple unformated txt-files, it does not work. It's in the nature of a pixel-based Grafix editor, it would not work in PhotoPaint too. How stupid it was, that I've tried.

BTW: I've posted this question even in several PS forums, and I got the same answers. So I will try to change my co-workers mind to use InDesign or Illustrator (at least they can import text files...).

Thanks for your replies.

FosterCoburn:

CorelDRAW is not good for making books, Photoshop is not good at
newsletters.

Hi Foster.

I know that Photoshop is rather poor in dealing with text esp. the printing quality, but as I am new to CorelDraw, what is the weaknesses of CorelDraw as a publication creator?

 

 

Michael,

CorelDRAW is an illustration program that happens to support multiple pages.
If someone is doing an 8 page newsletter, it can work great. It is not a
good solution for books though there are certainly users who make it work.

No page numbering, no headers, no footers, no TOC, no indexing and VERY SLOW
PERFORMANCE with a long text-heavy document. That's just the things that
immediately come to mind.

Corel makes a perfectly good program in Corel Ventura that can handle books
with 1000s of pages. For your 500-page book, I can almost guarantee that
Ventura could do it in a fraction of the time. Now there is one limitation
of Ventura that could apply to you. It does not support Unicode. So if your
book is using as Asian alphabet, it may not work in Ventura.

FosterCoburn:

No page numbering, no headers, no footers, no TOC, no indexing and VERY SLOW
PERFORMANCE with a long text-heavy document.

That is very true. I insert those elements manually. Luckily the page switching is easy, so I can just copy an object and browse to certain page and paste. And I cannot save the whole book in one single file otherwise the file size will be a few if not tens of GB.
I have a section on students' essays, 10 pages, each with a backgroung picture and full of text, the file size is 150MB.

FosterCoburn:

Now there is one limitation of Ventura that could apply to you. It does not support Unicode. So if your book is using as Asian alphabet, it may not work in Ventura.

That will definitely be a problem to me as my jobs involve English, Malay, Chinese and Japanese.

 

 

If there are only a few pages in Asian languages (a problem I very often have), the non Unicode limitation of Ventura can be worked around by creating the page as an EPS in Corel Draw and importing that as a graphic to Ventura (this also requires outputting Postscript and making a PDF typically from the PS file.)

Adding to what Foster said: footnote, end notes, cross references, captions, figure numbering, references to captions, chapter structure, numbering structure for paragraphs, keeping pictures with the text if the text moves.......sooner or later every book needs virtually all of those. The nice thing about Ventura is that, unlike its competing product from "the other graphics company" those are all there, not as $$$ plugins. However, even the EPS/graphic pages for isolated unicode requirements, alas, cannot access the features in Foster's or my list.

MichaelTadashi wrote:

FosterCoburn:

No page numbering, no headers, no footers, no TOC, no indexing and VERY SLOW
PERFORMANCE with a long text-heavy document.

That is very true. I insert those elements manually. Luckily the page switching is easy, so I can just copy an object and browse to certain page and paste. And I cannot save the whole book in one single file otherwise the file size will be a few if not tens of GB.
I have a section on students' essays, 10 pages, each with a backgroung picture and full of text, the file size is 150MB.

FosterCoburn:

Now there is one limitation of Ventura that could apply to you. It does not support Unicode. So if your book is using as Asian alphabet, it may not work in Ventura.

That will definitely be a problem to me as my jobs involve English, Malay, Chinese and Japanese.

 

 

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FosterCoburn:

No page numbering, no headers, no footers, no TOC,

 

Of course it is not "built in", but it is no problem to script a macro for that. In addition it is possible to define different textstyles for headers etc., which you can assign with a simple macro too. And once again this is the reason, why i am married with corel. (OK, I have already my sweety, but in this case she can't be jelaous...LOL) But it IS very slow performance in text docs. Fortunately my boss don't want me to do books...

Mo,

There is no way to create a macro that does what Ventura does for headers,
footers, indexing, tables of contents, etc. It is flat out impossible. Can
you create one that does a limitation version of these features that meets
your specific needs? Maybe. It is just really sad to me how many users try
to force CorelDRAW to do a job that they COULD DO MUCH FASTER in Corel
Ventura.

Foster, please excuse me when I forgot to mention that I was talking about rudimental macro workarounds to prevent or support inserting something like page numbers, headers or footers manually. To me it is really sad that some Users of Draw don't even try to work with ALL the given tools; like macros (it is not meant as "forcing Draw to do something), which have their limitations of course. But if Ventura would be able to export a newsletter as .psd with editable text, even if I have to make a book, I certainly would use Ventura - no doubt.

Well, it IS possible to get a .psd with editable text out of Draw! I've hacked a Monster Macro for that job, and it works fine. It's even possible to transfer feather effects & outlines! The macro will be available soon on my website...