Alright, so there is paint shop pro x2, painter x and photopaint x4... does all this not seem a little redundant? I'd like to see photopaint merged with painter x taking the best features from both as well as adding new ones. one very important feature is better support for modern CPUs. All of the graphics programs offered by corel need to be able to take advantage of large amounts of RAM when available and to utilize dual and quad core processors to their fullest extent. The performance of these programs is really slow, even on a very fast computer. It would also be nice to have more features, like from psp x2 added to photopaint so it can become more of a complete photo and art program. as it stands, it does a little of each but not nearly enough to make me forget about photoshop...
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I would be willing to pay an additional %50 of the current cost if the graphics suit became a serious competitor to photoshop
Hi,Allthough I do agree that Corel Photo-Paint need to be boosted up more,, its still the software I use on a daily basis in my work as an illustrator together with CorelDRAW.And all though I do agree as I said, when you say it need to be a serious competitor to Photoshop, please let us know what you think doesnt exist in Photo-Paint. Many times when people say something doesnt exist in Photo-Paint - it DOES exist Yes there is a lot of things I like to have in Photo-Paint, BUT those things doesnt always exist in Photoshop either. And not even the latest Photoshop CS4 have all that I like to have in Photo-Paint X4.And when something exist in both Photo-Paint and photoshop, it doesnt mean it has to be used the same way, workflow wise that is. For example the Crop tool in Photoshop CS3 isnt AT ALL in my liking. I prefere the way Photo-Paint does it. I cropped a image two days ago in my girlfriends computer with Photoshop CS3, and I just didnt like it. I said the F . . . word. Thats how cumbersome I thought it was in comparison to Photo-Paint X4.
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Edward Thurston: Everyone says the same thing and is in complete aggreement about the need to update, or re-write PP. Given the cost if CS and PS vs the cost of CGS, just how much would you be willing to pay for the extra "power" to PP ? Don't forget that just because Corel now owns PSP, it doesn't mean that the code structure is cross-compatible (re-write is necessary). Ted
See, Adobe isn't more expensive in reality. Few buys Photoshop and illustrator as separate programs and the standard Adobe suit contains a great dtp program while Corel Draw GS don't. Split the cost of the Adobe Suite in three ways and the Corel suit in two and you actually have about the same price per program.
... and no, Corel Draw is not a DTP-program.
Many people use it for that... and have for over 10 years. Are they wrong? :-D
I'm not saying indesign is "bad", but it I'd find it 33% more annoying to open yet another program to get work done, when I don't need to.
Killa Bunny: ... and no, Corel Draw is not a DTP-program.
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Draw is the Swiss army knife of DTP programs. How can you say that?
At times it was way ahead of other apps. There is every reason to believe that this race is far from lost for Corel. Critical as I am I would not under estimate these guys.
I suspect that software development curves eventually plateau and everything will end up having similar feature sets.
Yani
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But Corel Ventura is! And much better than InDesing CS4, in particular when you work with multple pages and chapters - a book.
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I'm come to the conclusion that is you talk about Ventura as if it is dead and it's not, someone might say different. But if you assume something is going to happen to it nothing will be said if it is dead. ;)
It's a strange logic I know. But you do have to assume that since it's gone from the main website it's gone.
And is that bad? Maybe not as computers are getting faster so there is no reason to believe that Draw can't be adapted to fill the gap.
Ventura is either dead, put to one side or in a very secret development zone. There would be a plan behind the silence you can bet on that.
You have to assume dead until proven otherwise.
KPT filters have disappeared too.
Over the years a lot of products have disappeared none have returned from the grave. Perhaps the code leaks into other programs.
creepydrawings:I would be willing to pay an additional %50 of the current cost if the graphics suit became a serious competitor to photoshop
I think that is exactly what Corel need to hear.
Edward Thurston: What is this "Standard Edition". The Creative Suites that I see on Adobe's page run from $999.00 to $2,500.00
Ok, I'm not sure about the prices in dollars but here in Sweden Corel DRAW GS X4 costs 7.000 kr an Adobe CS4 17000 kr.
7.000/2= 3.500:-/program
17000/3= 5.333:-/program
17.000/4= 4.250/program (4 is if you include Acrobat... and why shouldn't you?)
So yes. my argument isn't entirely true. But if you add an DTP-program to your Corel Suite in the eqation the numbers starts to look a bit different. Conclotion: Does Adobe make more money per sold program? Not much Does Adobe make more money over all on there programs? Yes, becaus they sell a hell alot more of them.
Jeff Harrison: Many people use it for that... and have for over 10 years. Are they wrong? :-D I'm not saying indesign is "bad", but it I'd find it 33% more annoying to open yet another program to get work done, when I don't need to.
I don't mean to step on anyones toes. Corel DRAW is a heck of a program with many very developed DTP features. But it's still not what it's primery designed for. Sure i don't understand why InDesign couldn't have better tools for drawing but it´s just way better in handeling typhografy, linked images and pages etc. and it has a streamlined interface to do this.
This is actually the main reason to why Corel doesn't compete with Adobe on the same level. Buying Corel DRAW and InDesign just is't that good a deal.
Yani: Draw is the Swiss army knife of DTP programs. How can you say that? At times it was way ahead of other apps. There is every reason to believe that this race is far from lost for Corel. Critical as I am I would not under estimate these guys. I suspect that software development curves eventually plateau and everything will end up having similar feature sets. Yani
Corel is definitely not the swiss army knife of DTP-programs it's rather the swiss asrmy knife of vector illustration programs with a lot of DTP features. And sometimes it's just better with a separate fork and a separate knife rather than one single tool. It's all about brading, Few people thiks "I'm starting upp a magasine about pets and dog food and though I buy this illustration program that also is a DTP-program". I just doesn't work that way. If Corel wish DRAW to be a chois for these people they have to brand it differently (and maybe even rename it) and extremly aggressivly as a DTP-program. This would seartenly mean harder work than simply putting a actuall DTP-software on the market.