Hi everyone,
I noticed that the price of the update to CoreldrawX5 is189,- USD when it is sold for 355 Euro on the NL site.
this is more than 200 euro above the price in USD!. It should be about 140 Euro. I do hope that this an error.
Regards
Martine
ansorgj:I ordered this way instead of paying EUR. Unfortunately one can only get the download version this way. Which brings me to another issue: Paying nearly the amount that the box costs but missing out all the goodies! Now, I don't need manuals and cliparts and photos - but getting the fonts would have been nice.
If I am not misstaken now, there might actually be so that you can order the "box" when its comig out presumably this march. I dont know if the download version is without all the goodies for ever. You should ask Corel customer service and see what is the deal here. If you get the goodies/DVD/Guidbook.
I might have read that those who by the dowload versio now can either recieve or pay the extrato get the box. In ay case you should look out for the Guidebook. which icludes the actual DVD with the program CDGSX5 as well as the fonts and etc. Its all coming in a nice looking box. If you looked at the Corel webiar for X5, ad checked the website, you will see its a nice and useful thing to have.
Dot give it all up just yet. He/she who waits...
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Did you forget that there are taxes being added to the product, by EU and by your own country?
HuMJohn aka Hugh Johnson
No this is correct.
It has to do with the taxes, import, distribution, etc. Due to the cost differences in every country, prices may vary.
You can kinda compare when you buy a car in the Netherlands the price will be different than when you buy a car in Germany. Also there is a price difference.
I hope that I explained it a bit
Serves Europe right for not all speaking English. ;)
Hey even I think that is extreme. If there is that much tax in it what is happening with world trade agreements.
Surely that is a comparison between the US upgrade price and the EU full version.
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Yani:Hey even I think that is extreme. If there is that much tax in it what is happening with world trade agreements.
A general rule is that a product you buy to sell in your own store, may cost you 50 euros to buy, and for you to make a profit: (and pay salery, store rent, taxes, pension etcetra,) you will charge your clients around 100 euros at least. 50 becomes 100.
In the EU there are a few various TAXES/ VAT differences. SOme more and some less.And sometimes depending on what is sold. Some countries, like Sweden have a 25% Sales Tax/ VAT on merchandise such as Computer software. But only 6% on books.
And Illustrators and journalists who work as freelancers, they charge 6 % VAT on top of every agreed fee for their services when its sold to magazine clients, but 25% VAT if it is a ad agency client. There is 12% on art work such as oilpaintings and acrylics, sculptures and so on. When sold at a gallery or sold directly by an artist. But a oilpainting sold on a general store, or IKEA for example have a 25% VAT/Sales tax on art work. Because its not considered original art work - well kind of.
Some other coutries in Europe as a whole, and the member states of the EU may have from 18-25% VAT.
But regardless of that if we consider that CorelDRAW Grapic Suite X5 cost 700 Euros in Sweden compared to the amounts in the USA & Canada, it does feel extreme sometimes. And the stores/retailers claim they dont have the same avanz/profit when selling computer software as they have on other merchandise.
I remember my brittish friend living in Sweden (originally from London), mayeb 3-4 years ago bought an ipod on a store in the USA. The sales clerk hearing his "accent" and looking at his Visa, said he couldnt sell him the ipod, due to agreements saying it would inflict on sales in Sweden and Europe. Crazy isnt it. Well my friend said he lived and worked in the USA. Which he didnt.
On the other hand, when I have been in the USA on trips and bought software and other goods, I have NEVER been stoped like that, because me being non-american.
But again, the more middle men there are, the more expensive it gets.
We have always paid more here too. I've totally given up buying books here, it's just a big rip off. Everything is "we will get that in for you in 3-4 weeks"... why, I can 'get it in' from Amazon in 7 days.
There will be plenty of people who will find a cheaper 'freight' than 200EUR.
I was a bit surprised when I reviewed the BSA Piracy Study that Europe was tracking at 35% compared to US at 20%. And France at 40%.
If pricing was based on piracy Asia would be paying 4 times the US rate. Unfortunately that would just encourage them.
I'm sure there are good reasons for price differences but today's consumers are very capable of international shopping.
Hi all,
Thanks for your quick reactions.
The prices I gave are the compared prices for the upgrade versions of CDrawX5. I am an old Corel user (back to Draw 3) and never experienced such a difference in the prices. I bought about 3 weeks ago the Video Studio X3 and WinDVD 20101 from Corel, and the prices in Euro and in Dollar were almost the same. For Europe a little more pricy because the parity euro-dollar, but absolutely not more than twice the price of the US version as for drawX5.
Best regards
Since V3 hey... well you will know what to do not to go there. ;)
I know the first thing I did when I looked at the Corel site was change au to us, as you do.
Yea, we Europeans suffer as usual:
Upgrade in the us shop: 189.00 USD = 138.56 EUR
Even if all additional costs would double this amount (which I highly doubt, especially since there seems to be no tariff on software, only the 19% tax) it's far less that what the German Corel shop is asking: 320,11 EUR
This is ridiculous
Yani: Since V3 hey... well you will know what to do not to go there. ;) I know the first thing I did when I looked at the Corel site was change au to us, as you do.
I ordered this way instead of paying EUR. Unfortunately one can only get the download version this way. Which brings me to another issue: Paying nearly the amount that the box costs but missing out all the goodies! Now, I don't need manuals and cliparts and photos - but getting the fonts would have been nice.
Hi,
Go to Foster's site, click on X5, go to the north American site, purchase the download and not the box and you will get US pricing and Foster's discount.
Bob
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Wijnanda: No this is correct. It has to do with the taxes, import, distribution, etc. Due to the cost differences in every country, prices may vary. You can kinda compare when you buy a car in the Netherlands the price will be different than when you buy a car in Germany. Also there is a price difference. I hope that I explained it a bit
The main reason why Corel charges more to Europeans is strategic. They believe they can charge more for their Products in EU. There are no import duties, Production & Distribution place for EU of X4 for example is Czech Republic, which has lower operating costs than USA or Canada. With software the above mentioned costs are representing marginal percentage of final Price.
When I read EULA for Corel X4, which was my recent Corel Purchase I haven't found any geographical Limitations on usage. Go buy in US! For Adobe CS however you are not allowed to use products bought in US over here in Europe. So we always pay about double for each upgrade or new Installation. I run legitimate Printshop and need to have all software according to regulations. At BSA they confirmed me that Adobe's move is OK. Software company sells it's product as they want it. You decide if you will buy it or not. I think nobody will help you to get something we see as "fair treatment" no matter where you are. Huge fines which EU charged to Microsoft for monopole are simply added to prices of MS products in Europe. No matter what consumer pays it all. The story of Volkswagen and geographic discrimination reads like nice move in protection of consumer, but it's just one case to make us feel protected. Volkswagen's pricing strategy had nothing to do with distribution and other blah, blah costs. Italians simply wouldn't pay much more for German Car than Italian Car. On the other hand most Germans would pay more for the same German car. But not all of them.
Always when I'm shopping software for my Company, I'm upset with the outrageous price differences. But on the End I always pay & accept fact that I'm just sheep being shaved. With no choice of a haircut.
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I saw you took it away, so I do too ;-)
bob: Hi, Go to Foster's site, click on X5, go to the north American site, purchase the download and not the box and you will get US pricing and Foster's discount. Bob
No, unfortunately, you can't. I tried, but when you write in your country (Sweden here) it says I must go to the European part of the site and order.
I think the pricing is arbitrarily set for "foreign" countries. They must also mark up the price overseas so that they can sell for the same price to resellers. This means that Corel gets the same profit when they sell to a wholesale company, as they get when selling to an end customer. And if they didn't mark up the price for Europeans buying from the Corel site, then no retailer in Europe would carry the product. This is my guess anyway.
The price in Europe should really be about the same as in America. Then this ridiculous game would stop. Just add the freight cost. Then they could also remove the software shipping restrictions at Amazon. They aren't allowed to sell software to Europe from Amazon US. Why? Just adjust the price in the Amazon UK store for freight cost, and they would compete on the same premises. That way I wouldn't be interested in buying from US, if I could order it as cheap from UK - the price could be a bit higher, but the shipping cost lower.